Curse

Vanchatron · Oct 27, 2007, 11:53 AM // 11:53

I used to play Guild Wars on my laptop with only 256mb of DDR RAM installed & there were no problems. I then decided to upgrade my RAM to a 1gb stick of DDR for better performance. Well ever since upgrading I've been experiencing the "blue screen of death", constant crashes & weird things happening all the time. The funny thing is, it's only when I play Guild Wars.

I can't think why this is though as it ran fine with no crashes etc on a 256mb DDR stick so why all the trouble with a 1gb DDR stick?

My laptop is - Compaq Presario R3000: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/p...ang=en& cc=uk

I'd appreciate any help regarding this, thanks a lot.

Vanchatron · Oct 27, 2007, 12:03 PM // 12:03

Also, I'm not sure if this is any help or not but here's what the error report said when it last crashed, although they have been different every time

Quote:

*--> Crash <--*
Assertion:
P:\Code\Base\rtl/Array.h(568)
App: Gw.exe
ProgramId: 1
Build: 24112
When: 10/27/2007 12:59:57
Flags: 0

*--> System <--*
Name: MIKE
IpAddr: 192.168.1.136
Processors: 1 [GenuineIntel:15:2:9]
OSVersion: 5.1

*--> Thread 0xfffffffe <--*
eax=100e8a30 ebx=00a17c94 ecx=00004df6 edx=00000000 esi=009b8ce8 edi=009b8ce8
eip=00402711 esp=018dfaf8 ebp=018dfb0c
cs=200202 ss=001b ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0023 gs=003b efl=00000000

eax-32 100E8A10 00000000 00000000 100e8b90 100e8ae0
eax-16 100E8A20 00000000 00000000 000b000b 030c01ee
eax +0 100E8A30 0000021d 02400220 00000004 35545844
eax+16 100E8A40 00000003 b8ee9000 00000400 00000400
eax+32 100E8A50 00000000 00174cd0 00000000 00000014
eax+48 100E8A60 00000100 00000100 00000000 00000000
ebx-32 00A17C74 0d2d0920 0000005d 0000005d 00000000
ebx-16 00A17C84 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
ebx +0 00A17C94 00000000 00000000 00000000 0212fb70
ebx+16 00A17CA4 00000200 0000013a 00000100 00000000
ebx+32 00A17CB4 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
ebx+48 00A17CC4 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
esi-32 009B8CC8 79726f74 00692520 70416347 70632e69
esi-16 009B8CD8 00000070 70416347 70632e69 00000070
esi +0 009B8CE8 435c3a50 5c65646f 65736142 6c74725c
esi+16 009B8CF8 7272412f 682e7961 00000000 70416347
esi+32 009B8D08 70632e69 00000070 70416347 70632e69
esi+48 009B8D18 00000070 70416347 70632e69 00000070
esi-32 009B8CC8 79726f74 00692520 70416347 70632e69
esi-16 009B8CD8 00000070 70416347 70632e69 00000070
esi +0 009B8CE8 435c3a50 5c65646f 65736142 6c74725c
esi+16 009B8CF8 7272412f 682e7961 00000000 70416347
esi+32 009B8D08 70632e69 00000070 70416347 70632e69
esi+48 009B8D18 00000070 70416347 70632e69 00000070

*--> Code <--*
004026F1 e8da3918 0083c40c 5ec39090 90909055 ..9.....^......U
00402701 8bec83ec 0c56578b f28bf9e8 00000000 .....VW.........
00402711 8f45f454 8f45f855 8f45fc85 f68bd675 .E.T.E.U.E.....u
00402721 05ba9c85 9b008b4d 088d45f4 50518bcf .......M..E.PQ..
00402731 e80a0000 005f5e8b e55dc204 00909055 ....._^..].....U
00402741 8bec81ec f0030000 53568d85 10fcffff ........SV......

*--> Trace <--*
Pc:00402711 Fr:018dfb0c Rt:0061963c Arg:00000238 15f277d0 15571a08 0e865ccc
Pc:0061963c Fr:018dfb6c Rt:00725fb2 Arg:15571a08 bf676bd7 bedae885 80000000
Pc:00725fb2 Fr:018dfbb4 Rt:00726b11 Arg:00000001 00a1cbe8 0e28a320 0e865b10
Pc:00726b11 Fr:018dfbe8 Rt:006eac11 Arg:39285836 00000000 0e865b10 0e92a3f8
Pc:006eac11 Fr:018dfc24 Rt:006e6a64 Arg:3d9e445e 00a1cce0 156add20 00a1cce0
Pc:006e6a64 Fr:018dfc48 Rt:006bb247 Arg:3d9e445e 0000001c 00a1cce0 00a1cbe8
Pc:006bb247 Fr:018dfc84 Rt:0045242c Arg:3d9e445e 018dfcb8 00a1ccb8 018dfce8
Pc:0045242c Fr:018dfcc4 Rt:00449f94 Arg:163a6674 16382fe8 018dfd00 005f8dc4
Pc:00449f94 Fr:018dfcd4 Rt:005f8dc4 Arg:00000000 0000003d 163a6674 00000007
Pc:005f8dc4 Fr:018dfd00 Rt:005f8e52 Arg:16382fe8 0000003d 018dfd98 00000000
Pc:005f8e52 Fr:018dfd24 Rt:005f80a4 Arg:0000003d 018dfd98 00000000 d9ed7cab
Pc:005f80a4 Fr:018dfd54 Rt:005f984b Arg:018dfd98 00000000 018dfdd4 015df1d0
Pc:005f984b Fr:018dfd78 Rt:005ebb05 Arg:00000000 015de9dc 0000000c 3d9e445e
Pc:005ebb05 Fr:018dfda0 Rt:005eab24 Arg:00000002 015def68 018dfe60 00000002
Pc:005eab24 Fr:018dfde0 Rt:005e5416 Arg:015def9c 015de9d0 00000004 018dfe60
Pc:005e5416 Fr:018dfe1c Rt:005e50ef Arg:00000004 015df1d0 00000000 00000001
Pc:005e50ef Fr:018dfe64 Rt:005e4c11 Arg:018dff20 018dff1c ffffffff 00000002
Pc:005e4c11 Fr:018dff14 Rt:0059e7a2 Arg:005e4a90 00000001 00000002 ffffffff
Pc:0059e7a2 Fr:018dff34 Rt:005a23fb Arg:7c913d00 014f8e80 014f8ec8 00369e99
Pc:005a23fb Fr:018dff68 Rt:0059c366 Arg:00000002 7c913d00 014f8ec8 014f8ec8
Pc:0059c366 Fr:018dff80 Rt:0080972e Arg:014f8e80 7c913d00 ffffffff 014f8ec8
Pc:0080972e Fr:018dffb4 Rt:7c80b683 Arg:014f8ec8 7c913d00 ffffffff 014f8ec8
Pc:7c80b683 Fr:018dffec Rt:00000000 Arg:008096cf 014f8ec8 00000000 019f0000

*--> Stack <--*
018DFAF8 15570001 15571f40 00402711 018dfaf8 [email protected]..'@.....
018DFB08 018dfb0c 018dfb6c 0061963c 00000238 ....l...<.a.8...
018DFB18 15f277d0 15571a08 0e865ccc bf66863a .w....W..\..:.f.
018DFB28 beda0f52 00000000 45f9c800 3eda0f52 R..........ER..>
018DFB38 bf66863a 00000000 c58ec000 00000000 :.f.............
018DFB48 00000000 3f7f0200 c415b631 00000003 .......?1.......
018DFB58 97ae56a0 3fefc09f 3f7e04fd 3f7e04fc .V.....?..~?..~?
018DFB68 7f800000 018dfbb4 00725fb2 15571a08 ........._r...W.
018DFB78 bf676bd7 bedae885 80000000 45f9c800 .kg............E
018DFB88 3edae885 bf676bd7 80000000 c58ec000 ...>.kg.........
018DFB98 00000000 80000000 3f800000 c415b631 ...........?1...
018DFBA8 c58ec000 bedae885 00000000 018dfbe8 ................
018DFBB8 00726b11 00000001 00a1cbe8 0e28a320 .kr......... .(.
018DFBC8 0e865b10 44bde424 417686ea 3e4a6645 .[..$..D..vAEfJ>
018DFBD8 bf7a2df3 00001fff 00000001 00000001 .-z.............
018DFBE8 018dfc24 006eac11 39285836 00000000 $.....n.6X(9....
018DFBF8 0e865b10 0e92a3f8 00000000 11f56f54 .[..........To..
018DFC08 11f99c7c 00000028 0000001c 3da7c359 |...(.......Y..=
018DFC18 11f56eac 0e865b10 00000005 018dfc48 .n...[......H...
018DFC28 006e6a64 3d9e445e 00a1cce0 156add20 djn.^D.=.... .j.
018DFC38 00a1cce0 3d9e445e 00000000 0e92a504 ....^D.=........
018DFC48 018dfc84 006bb247 3d9e445e 0000001c ....G.k.^D.=....
018DFC58 00a1cce0 00a1cbe8 00000007 018dfd98 ................
018DFC68 02feceb8 00000000 00000000 bf800000 ................
018DFC78 00000000 00a1cbe8 3ddc0000 018dfcc4 ...........=....
018DFC88 0045242c 3d9e445e 018dfcb8 00a1ccb8 ,$E.^D.=........
018DFC98 018dfce8 018dfd98 3e07184c bf76b4d4 ........L..>..v.
018DFCA8 3e62eb27 00000000 00000000 bf800000 '.b>............
018DFCB8 47306680 00000000 00000007 018dfcd4 .f0G............
018DFCC8 00449f94 163a6674 16382fe8 018dfd00 ..D.tf:../8.....
018DFCD8 005f8dc4 00000000 0000003d 163a6674 .._.....=...tf:.
018DFCE8 00000007 0000003d 16382fec 000000c0 ....=..../8.....
018DFCF8 80000000 00000000 018dfd24 005f8e52 ........$...R._.
018DFD08 16382fe8 0000003d 018dfd98 00000000 ./8.=...........
018DFD18 164b1758 164b1760 02feceb8 018dfd54 X.K.`.K.....T...
018DFD28 005f80a4 0000003d 018dfd98 00000000 .._.=...........
018DFD38 d9ed7cab 00000004 0000003d 00000008 .|......=.......
018DFD48 018dfd48 018dfd41 02fecea0 018dfd78 H...A.......x...
018DFD58 005f984b 018dfd98 00000000 018dfdd4 K._.............
018DFD68 015df1d0 00000000 018dfd98 0000003d ..].........=...
018DFD78 018dfda0 005ebb05 00000000 015de9dc ......^.......].
018DFD88 0000000c 3d9e445e 3def9db3 015df1d0 ....^D.=...=..].
018DFD98 3d9e445e 3d9e445e 018dfde0 005eab24 ^D.=^D.=....$.^.
018DFDA8 00000002 015def68 018dfe60 00000002 ....h.].`.......
018DFDB8 00000002 00000004 018dfddc 015df1d0 ..............].
018DFDC8 00000001 00000000 00599297 015de9dc ..........Y...].
018DFDD8 015def95 00000000 018dfe1c 005e5416 ..]..........T^.
018DFDE8 015def9c 015de9d0 00000004 018dfe60 ..]...].....`...
018DFDF8 015df1d0 00000001 015def68 00000000 ..].....h.].....
018DFE08 015df128 00000000 018dfe10 018dfe11 (.].............
018DFE18 00000002 018dfe64 005e50ef 00000004 ....d....P^.....
018DFE28 015df1d0 00000000 00000001 00000002 ..].............
018DFE38 015def68 8000121e 00000002 015def68 h.].........h.].
018DFE48 8000121e 00000000 00000000 015def68 ............h.].
018DFE58 a3b377c0 00000000 00000075 018dff14 .w......u.......
018DFE68 005e4c11 018dff20 018dff1c ffffffff .L^. ...........
018DFE78 00000002 8000121e 018dfeb4 7c809512 ...............|
018DFE88 00000001 00000002 00000000 0000008c ................
018DFE98 00000090 015df1bc 00000000 87420f30 ......].....0.B.
018DFEA8 87cfc020 87cfc001 00000000 00000014 ...............
018DFEB8 00000001 00000000 00000000 00000010 ................
018DFEC8 00000000 00000000 87cfc020 7ffdc000 ........ .......
018DFED8 7ffdb000 030c0000 018dfec8 018dfe94 ................
018DFEE8 015def68 00000001 00000000 00000600 h.].............

*--> LogQueue <--*

*--> DirectX Device Info <--*
VendorId = 0x1002
DeviceId = 0x5835
Version = 6.14.0010.6396
Description = ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9000 IGP
Compat = 0x00420001
VidMem = 128 MB

*--> DirectSound Device Info <--*
3D channels = 32
2D channels = 32
EAX support = None
Device count = 2

Vanchatron · Oct 27, 2007, 12:29 PM // 12:29

UPDATE: I just replaced the 1gb RAM stick with the 256mb RAM stick to make sure it actually WAS the RAM that was the problem and I've been playing GW for 15 mins with absolutely no crashes at all.

I'd think it was a faulty RAM stick but how can it be if it's fine when running things otehr than Guild Wars?

Also, I remember on one of the crashes I clicked "details" and it said something about "not being able to read from memory" or something similar. I'm not sure what this means, I just feel it may be of some significance to anybody trying to figure out this problem as it has the word "memory" in it. Oh & by the way, could it be the quality of the RAM? It was some really cheap unbranded value RAM I bought off eBay. I'm not sure whether this would make a difference or not but I'm just trying to provide as much info as possible.

I'll be checking up constantly so please keep me updated, thanks a lot.

Yanman.be · Oct 27, 2007, 01:51 PM // 13:51

Your gw.dat could be faulty. You could have just been lucky that no other program has had to use that specific sector of ram. Try running memtest.

StormLord · Oct 27, 2007, 08:44 PM // 20:44

Get Memtest from here: http://www.memtest.org/
It will tell you if your RAM is bad.

elektra_lucia · Oct 29, 2007, 10:41 AM // 10:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanchatron

UPDATE: I just replaced the 1gb RAM stick with the 256mb RAM stick to make sure it actually WAS the RAM that was the problem and I've been playing GW for 15 mins with absolutely no crashes at all.

I'd think it was a faulty RAM stick but how can it be if it's fine when running things otehr than Guild Wars?

Also, I remember on one of the crashes I clicked "details" and it said something about "not being able to read from memory" or something similar. I'm not sure what this means, I just feel it may be of some significance to anybody trying to figure out this problem as it has the word "memory" in it. Oh & by the way, could it be the quality of the RAM? It was some really cheap unbranded value RAM I bought off eBay. I'm not sure whether this would make a difference or not but I'm just trying to provide as much info as possible.

I'll be checking up constantly so please keep me updated, thanks a lot.

GW might use more ram or such. Your ram really could be faulty.

Vanchatron · Oct 29, 2007, 12:13 PM // 12:13

Turns out it WAS faulty RAM. Thanks a lot guys, appreciate it